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 01-02-2004, 21:35 Post: 72929
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 Looking for educational material

Looking for recommendations of affordable books, learning resources, websites, etc. for hydraulics. Especially stuff that is geared towards the do it yourselfer.

A project based book would be especially cool. Something that gives resources for buying pumps, actuators, etc. or at least tells how to select and look for the stuff.

Ideally, I's like to be able to make a power log splitter from scratch and then move onto some more challenging projects that are usefull around the home and jobsite.

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 01-04-2004, 16:28 Post: 73051
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Hi Harvey,

Yeah, I'm a little suprised there isn't a forum for this subject here too.


Are you building your splitter from plans or designing it yourself?

Hi Tom,

I found this log splitter plan at Amazon

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B0000AXFB3/103-1254200-9186225?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=I218GDFI4GT0ID&colid=3I2T1KNQS8QFT

And this book which looks pretty good but is pricey.

http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/0071406697/103-1254200-9186225?%5Fencoding=UTF8&coliid=IOC8X5CHBSW14&colid=3I2T1KNQS8QFT

I also tend to way overbuild things. I do my work that way too. It's Why I'm not rich by now. ... Smile

I also found this electric powered hydraulic log splitter at amazon. It's around $450. I wonder how good it is. It had generally good reviews except for a couple guys who seemed to have received defective or damaged units.

I wonder why there are no electric (non hydraulic splitters)? Seems like a gear and worm drive set up would work for a splitter. Anyone ever tried this?

Mark S.






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 01-05-2004, 09:17 Post: 73097
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Hi Harvey,

I forgot to include the link to the electric splitter. I like the fact that it's quiet (and fairly inexpensive), but I'd hate to get one and find out it's a piece of junk.

Here's the link:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00006AVZC/qid=1073315443//ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i2_xgl86/103-9759024-4317422?v=glance&s=garden&n=507846

If I can build a good one for the same price that'd be more rewarding I'd think. Plys I'd know who to call if it ever needed repair... Smile

I guess the issue with an electric powered splitter that's any good is that you'd need a pretty monstrous motor (5-10hp, 4000-7500watts). That'd be a pretty big motor and cost a lot I'd think. Or would a motor that size be neccessary?

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 01-05-2004, 09:21 Post: 73099
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Hi Tom,

Yeah I was thinking that a screw type splitter would take a while to move the ram back and forth, especially if there's a significant gear reduction required for neccessary torque. Would probably need greasing a lot too to keep the wood chips and everything from cloggiing up the screw mechanism.

I'm just curious why I don't see any such animals.

Mark S.






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 01-05-2004, 09:22 Post: 73101
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Hi Jerry,

I'd love that. I'm sending you a note via e-mail

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 01-05-2004, 09:43 Post: 73103
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I have seen MANY homemade splitters made from old washing machine motors powering a truck power steering pump, not real fast or real pretty but apparently they were better than swinging an axe.
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Dang, I just tossed out an old washing machine and power steering pump (believe it or not). That sounds like a fun experiment anyways. Something to get the project rolling, and then replace the pump and motor later with something more substantial.

I imagine that getting the ram, valve, and pump wouldn't be that hard. Neither would be getting the steel to build it all with. But the one thing I'm wondering about is where I would get the splitter head itself. Shouldn't that be forged steel with a sharpened edge? Or is just welding a coulpe of plates into a ninety degree angle and then sharpening it with a grinder sufficient? I guess the more power avaialable, the less important this is as long as the wedge is strong enough.

I guess while I'm mulling all this over I might as well start getting a list of suppliers together and figuring out costs. Any idea of where I can go online to get a ram, valve, pump, etc. that's sells at reasonable prices and offers good service?

What sizes of everything should I be looking at?

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 01-07-2004, 21:41 Post: 73408
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Mark northern hyd/tools has as good a price as anyone for a name brand cylinder and valve and they have their in house names at half the price.
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Do you have a web address for them? I'm having a hard time finding them through the usual search engines.

Also, does anyone know of a heavy equipment junkyard in the LA area? I saw an episode of Monster Garage once where they got a backhoe assy from a heavy equipment junkyard in Long Beach, but they didn't give a name of the place, and as such I'm so far unable to locate it.

Just so I can get an idea of what to look for, what size cylinder/actuator will I need? How about the pump and motor? I guess the only other things I would need is a valve and resevoir (besides the steel, hoses, fittings, and so on). What should I be looking for regarding the valve and tank?

Trying to get an idea of costs here.

In the mean time I'm reading through that Army hyd manual that Jerry sent me.

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